Senator Rand Paul at a Senate hearing involving Dr. Anthony Fauci

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Fauci Appears Under Subpoena

Dr. Anthony Fauci, the former director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, appeared Wednesday morning before the Senate Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee under subpoena. The hearing was titled “Testimony of Anthony Fauci” and was scheduled for 8:30 a.m. ET on July 29 in Room SD-342 of the Dirksen Senate Office Building, according to the committee notice cited in the report. Committee Chairman Sen. Rand Paul of Kentucky had pushed for Fauci’s appearance after earlier negotiations did not produce voluntary testimony. That is usually when Washington’s favorite phrase, “full cooperation,” starts doing a lot of heavy lifting.

The Fifth Amendment Takes Center Stage

According to the report, Fauci declined to testify and invoked the Fifth Amendment at the start of the proceeding. That right protects a person from being forced to give self-incriminating testimony, and using it is not the same as a legal finding of guilt. Still, for Americans who lived through school closures, mask fights, vaccine mandates, shifting guidance, and the great public-health lecture tour, it was not exactly the open-answer session many had hoped to see. The country was told for years to “trust the science,” but when the Senate wanted answers, the science apparently arrived with lawyers.

Paul Clashes With Fauci’s Attorney

The hearing grew tense after Paul finished questioning Fauci and one of Fauci’s attorneys attempted to speak, according to the report. Paul repeatedly told the attorney he was not recognized by the chair and could not take over the proceeding. Paul said the attorney had been told not to sit at the witness table and was not invited to give testimony. He warned that the lawyer could advise Fauci, as could the other attorneys present, but could not disrupt the committee’s work. Paul also compared the moment to courtroom rules, saying a judge would not allow that conduct. Washington may run on loopholes, but even there, a hearing room is not supposed to become open-mic night for counsel.

Security Is Called And The Room Reacts

Paul eventually directed security to remove the attorney from the room after further interruptions, the report said. He added for the record that Fauci would still have access to advice from the other attorneys he brought with him. The audience reportedly broke into applause after Paul ordered the removal. The moment captured the larger fight behind the hearing: whether Congress can get clear answers from powerful officials after major national decisions, or whether the public gets another round of process, privilege, and professional fog machines. Fauci had the right to legal counsel and the right to remain silent, but senators also have the right to run their own hearing without being filibustered by someone who was not sworn in to testify.

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